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Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno

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A Malaysian model

A Malaysian model, who is set to become the first woman in the Southeast Asian country to be caned for drinking alcohol in public, wants her punishment carried out in public. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/20/malaysia.caning/index.html … see full wiki

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Getting caned for a beer???

Aug 21, 2009

by ajrawls

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This is something that I normally wouldnt post about but I'm really irked by this story from CNN.

I was shocked to hear that Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno would be caned for having a beer in hotel bar in Malaysia. Malaysia forbids drinking alcohol if you are a Muslim. The basis of her punishment is that since she is Muslim that she broke a religious law(In Malaysia there is a civil & religious court). I have major respect for Kartika. She not only stepped up and acted responsibly regarding her actions by accecpting & paying the fine but she wants her punishment to be executed publicly.

My issue with this is that no court religious, civil, or otherwise should ever have the ability to punish someone for not following their religion's rules. There are some execptions that are understandable where someone is being harmed by your actions(murder, assault, etc.). Imagine being jailed for a week for eyeballing your neighbors spouse, or spending a year in jail for eating something that is against your beliefs. When I read this my first thoughts were this is really religious based discrimination, based on the simple fact that the country is religion to control and incriminate its people. Imagine being pulled over by a police officer & being thrown in jail for listening to heavy metal, rap, or anykind of music someone would consider secular.

I believe in rules. I have tons of them myself personally. But none of them include punishment for falling out of line with your religious beliefs. Religion is about a relationship with the entity you choose to believe in. Be it God, Allah, Buddah etc. Lets learn from the mistakes from others & become better people for a better world.

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Scotman December 15, 2009

Good write-up. A clear example of why the USA's example of a separation between Church and State was a radical yet proper idea over 200 years ago. The Church (any church) running things with the government had been the rule, not the exception, for thousands of years. The USA constitution stopped that practice. Unfortunately other countries have yet to come up to speed.

A side question: Why is a bar set up in a Muslim community that forbids drinking?

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