The fact that he's a steroid abuser should automatically erase all his records from the record books. Baseball has become a joke because of guys like him.
Man I can't believe all the praise this guy gets for winning a couple of national titles. Wasn't this guy a NFL reject before he coached in USC? I mean even if he did win the college football national championships a couple of times, it doesn't mean anything. NCAA titles in football is like winning the gold in gymnastics. No one gives a shit cause there's no tournament.
Probably the most OVERWEIGHTED player in Boston history. Just cause he had a few good years everyone was saying he was the most cluth athlete in Boston. I can't believe there was an article about him being a bigger icon than Larry Bird.
I can't believe how overrated this guy is. Just cause he won that one superbowl against NE. I mean, he wasn't even the best quarterback for that game. Brady made less mistakes than he did. And he's lucky he didn't get picked off a few times when the defenders dropped his great passes to them.
First of all, managers don't win world series in baseball. Luck does. And if his career was any indication of his luck, it would tell me he's very unlucky. One world series in like 500 years or something?!?!
Like I mentioned before about baseball managers, all luck. Once the playoff starts, it's anyone's game. Just gotta hope your pitcher's not having a bad day.
A point guard who can't shoot for shit. God thats a bad combination. I still don't get how people say how great he is when you're a bball player shooting under 40% most of your career.
I know he hits a lot of homeruns but he strikes out 10x as much. I mean you know something is wrong when you're close to breaking the strikeout record for a season every season and you're not a pitcher!!!
Sure he scores a lot of points. But someone's gotta score the points for a crappy team. Hell, Antoine Walker was the top scorer for Boston and we all know how great he was...
Kobe, Torre and Favre....please tell me you are kidding around. I want to play in your fantasy leagues. Wow I just saw Eli, doesn't he have like 3 300 yrd. games already? You are messing with us, I am going to follow you to check your lists. Can you put together the most "UnderRated" list please? I think that will be equally interesting and fun to check out. Fun read man.
foboftheyearOctober 06, 2009
Funny you should ask. I'm not kidding about Torre for sure. As for Favre and Kobe, I just feel they're not the greatest and they're considered the greatest by so many already... especially Kobe. I don't care how good Kobe is, if so many people are saying he's as good or better than Jordan, then that automatically says he's overrated. Favre is one of the best QB, but not even on the top 5 of my list. Montanna and Elway for sure is better than him in my opinion. As for Torre... read my reply to @MichaelN. And last, and certainly almost least, You're comparing Eli's first few games as if he was doing that consistently throughout his career. I mean he's not even worth mentioning in the same sentence as his brother Peyton right now.
@foboftheyear They are the greatest in the sport today
BhaddadOctober 06, 2009
Favre top 10 then? Kobe top 8-10 for sure right? Torre where do you think he falls, made it in NYC for over 10 years, that is unheard of right ? I was in NYC during that time, he was and is the man. Eli okay give you some real points on that, but man he is getting the hype because he is up and coming, plus the QB lineage and then the superbowl ring says something. We all know Kareem, Irving, Jordan, Magic, Bird, Montana, Elway, Pat Haden (just kidding) but gotta give the young and not so young (Favre my age by the way) some hard earned props. Now where is your "Underrated" list, by the way man you are really defending your point of view well so I am giving you your well earned Kudos.
foboftheyearOctober 06, 2009
Favre, he's definitely up there but just not greatest and because so many say he's the greatest, is why I put him on the overrated list. Kobe, easily the top 2 players in the NBA right now. But same as Favre, because they try to compare him to Jordan makes him overrated. So in a nutshell, my list is basically made up of players that are ranked higher than they really are. So for instance with Kobe, lets say I think he's the 4th or 5th best NBA player of all time, but because so many people say he's "THE BEST", makes him overrated on my book.
jrjohnsonOctober 07, 2009
i agree... i want to see your "Most UnderRated List" I'd like to see what nice things you have to say about some people.
foboftheyearOctober 07, 2009
Can't think of enough players for that list but off the top of my head would be Barry Sanders, Dennis Rodman, Bill Laimbeer and Randy Moss. When I have a decent list worth, I'll make sure to post that up with some "factual" comments.
BhaddadOctober 07, 2009
For sure I like the list already man. Laimbeer, Rodman, Moss (I have been talking about that for years) nobody talks about him anymore because he has matured and become a leader, now is the time he should be getting face time on TV. Look forward to it man. Hands up Chin down man it looks like they are still coming after you. Good night.
Well, thank goodness I don't live in LA then, nor am I a die hard sports fan like, well, the rest of the commentators so far :P
foboftheyearOctober 06, 2009
hahaha yea. and it doesn't help that all/most of my co workers are diehard fans. guess it sux for a non-la sports fan to live in la. but then again, its fun to talk smack to them about their mediocre sports teams.
Good interesting list that could start a big discussion posted at a sports blog. Some observations about your baseball picks: 1. Barry Bonds was a great player pre-steriods. He had all the tools and the stats to back up his talent. 2. Ortiz was so clutch from 2003 to 2005. Also, in Beantown the Red Sox own the town no matter how many championships the Celtics win. 3. On Tommy Lasorda - You must have missed the 1988 Mickey Hatcher Dodgers that beat the much superior Mets and A's. Sure Herschiser was awesome but the Dodgers had a darn awful line-up. 4. Joe Torre - In the playoffs for a 15th consecutive year. Turned around some really hurting Yankee teams from 2005-2007 to come from way back each year to become division champs. 5. Ryan Howard - a thinner version of David Ortiz but probably the most scary hitter in the game.
foboftheyearOctober 06, 2009
I agree Bonds was great pre-steroids. 30 hr, 100 rbi consistently BUT those numbers aren't deserving of being argued as one of the best of all time. Ortiz, I never disagreed that he was awesome during 03 - 05. But.... like I mentioned, it was only for a few years. Ryan Howard, if he's gonna strike out 200 times a season every season, that means he's swinging like mad at every pitch. and therefore is why he has so many homeruns in my opinion. As for the 2 managers, I just don't have much respect for Baseball managers. I think Basketball and Football coaches are much more important than they are.
MichaelNOctober 07, 2009
I agree with your comments about each player but you did not put in your list overated as "greatest of all-time." I don't think Bonds was considered greatest of all time until he put up unreal numbers but at the time nobody was thinking steroids. Once that came out, many started discounting Bonds aberration numbers. Totally agree with you that Baseball managers make the least difference when compared to other sports but a good manager could add a few wins to a team over the long season. By properly managing the pitching staff over the long haul the pitchers can be better prepared for the post season.
Favre won one title but the way people rave about him they seem to forget Unitas, Bradshaw, Montana, Brady, Starr (funny that Favre is not even the best Packers quaterback) , Elway to name a few.
ajrawlsOctober 06, 2009
The number of titles has nothing to do with him not being overrated because wining a title has more to do with the system the player is in. That resonates for any team sport. None of those players is forgotten especially Mr. Brady. @MichaelN -> Here is a good question how many NFL QB's have won multiple titles??
This is a funny read and a great work of fiction, but I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into it. This sounds like the type of guy that's great to make sports bets with.
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