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Miss California 2009

Winner of the Miss California 2009 Pageant who was later dethroned.

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Has Anybody Heard of the First Amendment?

  • May 15, 2009
When I first clicked on Miss California, I immediately rated her a negative 5 because I was just going on what I had heard- that she was anti-same-sex marriage and had nude photos of herself out there. But, after I actually googled her (which is my generation's definition of researched), I changed my rating to a plus 5. Why? The short version? First Amendment and Holly Madison. Keep reading to see how those two actually can share the same sentence.


Here's the lowdown: I believe in same-sex marriage. I don't think it makes a difference and that homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals when it comes to property rights and hospital visits, etc. I voted a BIG NO ON HATE, err...I mean Prop 8. Hence, my immediate reaction to Miss California. However, California doesn't agree with me, which I'm still trying to get over. They voted Yes on Prop 8, maintaining a ban on same-sex marriage. Miss California represents California and, as such, their views.

Her faith also happens to be anti-homosexuality, as misguided and poorly translated from the original Bible as that may be (a much later discussion). She stayed true to herself and answered honestly, "biblically correct" in her words but, whatever.

We live in a country where we believe in freedom of speech, expression, religion, etc. She represented all three of these in one beauty pageant answer. Do I agree? No! But, guess what? The same rights that I have to express that opinion and write this review protect her rights to disagree with me, yes, even on national television.


I have two questions for you. One, have you seen them? I haven't and the ones I have seen were taken when she was of age and were not completely nude or topless. If there is such a huge problem with "nude" photos being associated with the Miss America pageant, then why on Earth was Holly Madison a judge? You might know her, most famously from the E! Television series, "Girls Next Door" where she starred as Hefner's numero uno. However, the reason she got put in that position is...you guessed it- nude photos!

I think how Perez Hilton handled the whole situation was completely wrong and I rate him a negative 5. He called her every name in the book and he could've used this controversy to raise some support and attention for same-sex marriage. Instead, he chose to berate a woman for standing up for what she believes which should never be allowed- no matter how much you may disagree.

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July 01, 2011
One cannot reasonably support a right whilst proscribing another. Why the opinion of a model is of interest to anyone is quite beneath my comprehension, but those who support gay rights ought argue her assertions rationally rather than seek censorship as a hysterical quick fix. They don't speak for me or anyone else who qualifies as GLBT and actually thinks before reacting. More importantly, issues pertaining to gay marriage, abortion or religion are always loudly dry-humped by media outlets in order to distract public attention from this country's invariably abysmal foreign and economic policies. It's a tactic as ancient as empire: draw the eyes of the masses from grave problems that they'd have to learn about to less pressing matters that they can relate to. As the majority of the populace is intellectually indolent and inherently selfish, this tactic is always successful.
July 05, 2011
Exactly! In no way do I agree with her and she could never represent anyone who qualifies as GLBT or those of us who support people's right to love who they want and live how they wish. I never understood the big deal that's made about same sex marriage and I agree with you that it is often used as a scapegoat for damn near all of our faults. I think we also have pretty abysmal human rights, education, and health care policies as well. But, any of those would qualify for people needing to educate themselves before opening their mouths, including same sex marriage. Well written, good sir!
July 05, 2011
Occupying a weird position as human rights are concerned, freedom of speech in the U.S. is almost unparalleled in comparison to most other countries, yet so many other civil liberties here have eroded to an extent that many locales (especially in the northeast) could be rightly classed as police states.
Teachers' unions and their political cronies have shifted the focus of debate concerning education so completely from curriculum to payroll, so to create surreal circumstances. Most public schools in this country have proven that they can't turn out adequately literate adults capable of performing long division, yet debates concerning pay are always at the forefront of public discussion, even though teachers are grossly overpaid in comparison to most other civil servants.
Until a comprehensive single-payer health care model is presented for legislation, I can't be bothered at length with the subject. The PPACA is but another bone thrown to medical institutions under the guise of benefit to the middle class. Much more worrying is the preponderanceof drugs in the healthcare industry; what Big Pharma has wrought is sufficient to prove Huxley prescient. 
June 15, 2009
I've been following this and all of your comments promote food for thought. One thing I'd like to add is that this is not the time in this country to be controversial on a variety of subjects, regardless of the notion of free speech. Some of those topics we must be politically correct on are: homesexuality, women bashing, ethnic remarks regarding Jews, Latinos and the list does go on.....(yawn)... What I find rather sad, yet amusing at times is that's it OK though to male bash because at the moment men don't have the "inside" track so to speak. The "dumb" male (husband) syndrome is prevalent in commercials, sitcoms and the like and nobody hardly thinks a thing about it. Years ago nobody would blatantly bash a male. There are certain trends right now that have the "inside" track (like homesexuality and the notion that females "rock" and can do anything a man can do, only better. Even though we talk about free speech, it's really only in theory....try turning it into an acuality (like Ms. California did) and prepare to watch all Hell break loose. Ms. California did the correct thing by saying what her beliefs are.....not that I'm inclined to agree with her, but I do defend her right to say it, just like I defend different religions....that's what America is all about. We're all (supposed to be) entitled to our opinions and we can't agree with everyone all the time. It is what it is as they say, but things are cylical and one day men will be "in" again and homosexuality may not be the center of controversy.
June 15, 2009
I think "male bashing" is a passive agressive way of unloading years of sexual bias and prejudice. It is used in media as a comic relief and a marketing ploy to suck in female consumers...who are typically in charge of shopping, not ALWAYS but, mostly. I have been wishing since I was 7 that eventually, we'll all just be Americans. No more, no less...just that. The only classification that I think should exist is one that is based on where people are from- Californian, New Yorker, English, Italian, etc...there will always be controversy. Luckily, I love it. I love when people have opposite opinions than I do because it only strengthens my own views. Thanks for your thoughtful comment!
June 14, 2009
Very interesting review. You make some excellent points.
June 15, 2009
Thanks! Well, of course now, she hasn't fulfilled her duties so, though I support her right to say what she wants, my respect diminishes each day.
May 21, 2009
The initial flap was caused by the fact that she DIDN'T speak intelligently about the issue. What we're seeing and hearing now is an edited version of her comments that form a coherent answer. Her original response showed her as responding more like the teen queen's answer of geography. But when that didn't get a rise out of people it was edited to focus on the First Amendment issue. But would any of this matter if she had been an ugly fat chick rather than a hot blonde in a bikini?
May 21, 2009
Well, it would if that ugly fat chick was on national television, I would think. Actually, maybe even more so. I have only seen the clips from the show and have never watched a Miss America pageant in my life. So, I will have to take your word on the version that I saw from NBC on YouTube- she did look like a teen queen with her ummss and opposite marriage (I LOVE THAT!). But, how she says something doesn't take away from her right to say it.
May 21, 2009
Wow, I'm having so much trouble posting a reply here! First it posted about 5 replies and then I couldn't remove them! oy! So the point is that the fat ugly chick wouldn't be able to get on television in the first place. And if she did and if she expressed the same views this chick did people would automatically assume she was gay because she was too ugly to get a man. Let's be real here. =)
May 21, 2009
Agreed and well stated. What the hell is Perez Hilton doing judging anything? What a jackass.
May 21, 2009
They're probably trying to use him as a promotional tool because for some gosh darn reason he has thousands of followers. At least I hope...because they had him and Holly Madison, it's like who picked these judges?
May 18, 2009
I am absolutely right with you. Another point to think about is this: no matter how much any of us may disagree with her, Miss California actually stood up there, spoke intelligently on a topic that is very controversial, and took a firm stance on it despite the backlash that she had to know would've come from her answer. I definitely do not support her views, but I think those characteristics I've just mentioned, plus the physical hotness essential to any Miss USA contestant, should have won her the pageant. After all, I'd like to live in a country that rewards people for being smart, confident and beautiful and willing to stand up for what they believe in.
May 18, 2009
I couldn't agree with you more, Mark! That's the whole beauty of the American ideals and I think that's what we should all strive for as well as applaud. At least she's getting way more publicity than the actual winner and she will be doing good with it. She said that she wants to teach children to have faith in their beliefs and not to let anyone come in between them and their values. That's a lesson we all should teach our kids.
May 18, 2009
I agree with you on all points. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who heard this but I was told dont ask questions if you don't want the answers. Even though I personally don't agree with her, she has every right to her opinion and a lot of Americans would have answered that question that exact way, the only difference is she was out on the spot with cameras rolling. With that said Perez Hilton should apologize to her and try and save some dignity.
May 18, 2009
I totally agree! You're not the only one- I was raised with that same lesson.
May 18, 2009
You called out all the contradictions in this situation that I was thinking about myself! All parties involved are guilty, and especially Perez Hilton, though I can understand his strong reaction.
May 18, 2009
I completely understand his reaction but, he could've turned it around by responding with class and bringing positive attention to same-sex marriage. Nope, he gave the bible thumpers more ammunition for their ignorance.
May 18, 2009
I completely understand his reaction but, he could've turned it around by responding with class and bringing positive attention to same-sex marriage. Nope, he gave the bible thumpers more ammunition for their ignorance.
May 25, 2009
That's probably right. Now, if it would have been Trent of Pink is the New Blog, then maybe things would have ended up better.
May 15, 2009
I think we must have been linked mentally on this one. One thing that i want to add here is how man celebs have gone onto sell to us and children after posing nude or worse? How many kids do you think have Katy Perry's I kissed a girl on their mp3 player? Im sure alot and some of their parents are singing along with them.
May 15, 2009
Well, there's just so much- I mean, what if a man had said this? Like Bill O'Reilly or Bush or OBAMA...hello?!? Ads sell sex every chance they get, so for a model to have pics of herself in those same poses that sell us everything from body wash to cars to shoes and then, just blast her character is so wrong and hypocritical. I'm going to read your review now- just saw it! Thanks for your comment!
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review by . May 15, 2009
Granted Carrie Prejean is  supposed to be the ambassador for California & the USA, Carrie did nothing wrong. This is the land where you have the right to speak your mind regardless of whether someone agrees or disagrees.     I am not siding with Carrie because I agree with her opinion(btw I totally disagree because marriage is a matter of the heart) but I'm siding with her right to free speech. I thought pagents were nt only about beauty but having enough brain to form …
Quick Tip by . November 12, 2009
I'm with you, Drifter. Who cares about this kind of conventionalism anyway? Don't we have more important things to discuss??
Quick Tip by . November 12, 2009
Is there anyone who really cares about this??
Quick Tip by . November 12, 2009
She threw a tantrum on Larry King after the argument was done. She needs an image coach.
Quick Tip by . November 12, 2009
Though I support the 1st Amendment, it's really her uppiness & hypocrisy that irks me.
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Caroline (Carrie) Michelle Prejean, an American beauty pageant contestant and model was born on May 13, 1987 to Francine Coppola and William Prejean.

As a model, Prejean has worked for Target, Saks Fifth Avenue, Bloomingdale's and Nordstroms. She also appeared as a model for E! Entertainment Television and was first runner-up on Deal or No Deal's season 3 model search. She is currently a senior at San Diego Christian College, studying to become a special education teacher. She also volunteers at the The Rock Church, where she volunteers with their outreach ministries.

Originally from Vista, California, Prejean currently holds the title of Miss California USA 2009, and placed first runner up in the Miss USA 2009 pageant. Prior to her win, the Miss California Pageant paid for Prejean's breast implants. She has been criticized over her answer to the final question asked by Judge Perez Hilton during the pageant: whether she believed every U.S state should legalize same-sex marriage. She responded, "Well I think it's great that Americans are able to choose one way or the other. We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage. You know what, in my country, in my family, I do believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, no offense to anybody out there. But that's how I was raised and I believe that it should be between a man and a woman."

Soon after her win, Prejean had her crown threatened after causing additional controversy ...

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