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Google and China Controversy

An incident in early 2010 stemming from Google being the victim of a cyber attack that originated in China.

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Quick note on Google, China and our Trust

  • Jan 26, 2010
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I lover hearing the other side of any issue, personally I hold about 5 views on any subject. This started as a comment on Sharrie's review. Her comments on Chinese culture makes sense, very insightful.

Google recently had their best quarter ever, had they chosen to turn the other cheek they would loose their moral high-ground. That and they have gotten where they are much due to their adherence to principles. They rely on our trust and work hard to maintain it. The high road is the least risky for Google as they are the giant now. It's not a loose-loose by the way, Google has a proven track record of re-writing business rules. Google does not need to dominate the whole world either.

It's sad on many levels, but if google gets the rest of the world, and Baidu gets China, it wouldn't be all that bad for anyone.

Agreed that Chinas commonly cited problems are not the point. Google does not expect to impress the Chinese government. All they have to do, and they have, is to cement the idea that they are the one company that doesn't take crap and "does no evil." Trust was always top currency. Without it we're all playing "art of war" which you'd expect the Chinese to know a thing or two about.

It's interesting to consider where Google's competitors stand on this.

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February 09, 2010
U did make a good point about trust. But from what I can see in history, trust is very fickle. For example, America government once trusted Iran & Iraq. Now, I guess not. Germany, Japan, well.. there are just too many things in Politics that are difficult to trust.
 
February 09, 2010
It is actually not a case of Google gets the rest of the world while Baidu gets China. Baidu already has China no matter what Google does. I think some readers might think Google pulling out of China is about Google compromising. Google is in no way compromising with it's Google English search engine. One still can access Google.com in China even if Google pulls out. The only thing is that the search will be in English and therefore only good for those who are able to read English. There are also majority of people in the world assuming every other person in the world read English. That's not the case though. More than 90% of the internet users in China may not read English at all. Hence, what Google loses is actually itsChinese readers and market. I'm not sure what makes it think that if they are out of China, their gmail accounts won't be hacked. I mean it's a cyber world, there is no border out there. The controversy is about some more specific issues, I presume. Who knows, may be cyber war is in progression! We had economic "war" in mid 90s during the Asian Financial crisis when Asian currencies were being attacked by the West & then almost everyone in the world. China stepped in and supported Hong Kong markets. I guess we might just be seeing a series of cyber "battles"!
 
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Quick Tip by . January 23, 2010
so many issues at play with this issue. still trying to wrap my head around it.
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On January 12, 2010, Google announced that it is "no longer willing to continue censoring" results on Google.cn, citing a breach of Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. The company found that the hackers had breached into two Gmail accounts but was only able to access 'from' and 'to' information and subject headers of emails in these accounts The company's investigation into the attack showed that at least 20 other companies had been similarly targeted. Additionally, "dozens" of Gmail accounts in China, Europe, and the United States had been regularly accessed by third parties, due to phishing or malware on the users' computers rather than a security breach at Google. Although Google did not explicitly accuse the Chinese government of the breach, it said it was no longer willing to censor results on google.cn, and that it will discuss over the next few weeks "the basis on which we could run an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China."

On January 13, 2010, the news agency AHN reported that the U.S. Congress plans to investigate Google's allegations that the Chinese government used the company's service to spy on human rights activists.
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